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#37541 Any prospect of UNiTE availability for Joomla 4.x?

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Latest post by nicholas on Wednesday, 12 October 2022 03:02 CDT

pjdevries

Hi,

Is there any prospect of UNiTE being available for Joomla 4.x?

Regards,

Pieter-Jan de Vries

tampe125
Akeeba Staff

Hello,

UNiTE is an external tool, that will connect to the remote website, run a backup, download it and then extract it locally. This means that it will work with Joomla, WordPress and standalone websites, since we "talk" with the remote server using the API.

Davide Tampellini

Developer and Support Staff

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pjdevries

Hello Davide,

Thanx for the swift reply. I like to bring a previous discussion concerning this topic to mind though: #35933 Sorry, I cannot find a way to connect to your remote site. One of your replies there was:

I just saw that you are using Joomla 4. In that version we changed the name of our extension, this is why you're getting an invalid response; currently UNiTE is not compatible with Joomla 4.

tampe125
Akeeba Staff

The link you posted is from October 2021, now Joomla 4 is way more supported since then, can you please try to let it run?

As far as I know it should work without problems

Davide Tampellini

Developer and Support Staff

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pjdevries

I did try, before I posted this question. Sadly I experience the same issue as back then: Sorry, I cannot find a way to connect to your remote site.

Unfortunately I'm currently not able to investigate this any further. But if you are sure it should work, I will spend some more time on it later.

tampe125
Akeeba Staff

mhm... you're correct.

I'll investigate on this, thanks for the report.

Davide Tampellini

Developer and Support Staff

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pjdevries

I'm looking forward to the solution. Thanx in advanceย  for the effort.

pjdevries

I'm curious. Any progress here or still no priority for UNiTE? If it will not become available for Joomla! 4.x ever, just let me know and I won't bother you guys anymore :)

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager

I already have a version of UNiTE compatible with Joomla 4 โ€”I wrote this in late Augustโ€” but it needs some polishing and documentation. Other issues took priority in the past month and a half. I will try to finish it up, probably this week.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

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pjdevries

Sounds good. I'll check back in next week. Thanks for the feedback.

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager

I just released version 5 which is compatible with Joomla 4 and has a lot more features, including support for JSON and YAML formats for the configuration file (the XML format is still there and 100% compatible).

The on-line documentation will be updated in the next half hour or so.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

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pjdevries

That was quick. Your "probably this week" was quite an understatement :D

pjdevries

You might take a look the the documentation page. The Download link for UNiTE's documentation is broken. I guess it should point to the epub version, which is unfortunate. I am quite happy with the pdf docs that come with all or most other of your extensions.

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager

We will no longer supply PDF documentation without extensions, only ePub. Thank you for the heads up about the link, I will fix it very soon.

There are two reasons. One is practical, the other technical.

PDFs were a bad choice to begin with. PDFs are designed to be print proofs, not a way to disseminate documents to be read on digital devices. Unfortunately, when I needed to find a way to disseminate the documentation for off-line reading back in 2007 there was no other alternative. ePub is just a ZIP with HTML files, which means that they can be set to flow based on your screen size and chosen text size โ€” but it can also be printed out.

Our documentation is written in DocBook XML 5 (using XMLMind's excellent DocBook Editor application). It is converted to other formats using the DocBook XSL stylesheets. The stylesheets do not convert directly to PDF; they convert to XSL-FO. Then we use Apache FOP to convert the XSL-FO document to PDF. However, development of XSL-FO stopped in 2017. As a result, the DocBook XSL stylesheets no longer support XSL-FO. The older stylesheets we are using might stop being developed soon as the one person who's doing the work has clearly stated that his priority is the newer stylesheets.

This makes using PDF files a double whammy. PDFs are not a good choice for the way most of our clients want to use the documentation (on their phone or tablet while using their laptop to work on their site). Moreover, creating PDFs is relying on an obsolete standard which is already dead for 5 years and a toolchain which might stop being developed in the near future, therefore we'd be unable to continue providing off-line documentation. Hence the choice of ePub which is just a ZIP file with HTML files and metadata. At worst you can extract it and browse the HTML files in your browser.

There are plenty of ePub readers, many of which are completely free of charge if not outright Free and Open Source Software. Calibre is the most well-known one and runs on Windows, Linux and macOS. It can even convert to PDF if you prefer PDFs; its interface is decidedly not modern but it works great and that's what I use on Linux. There is also Adobe Digital Editions for Windows, iOS/iPadOS and Android. On macOS I use ClearView X; on iOS/iPadOS I use Apple Books. Reading ePub files is very easy and it works much better than PDFs. Once you start using it you will see how much easier it is to use than PDFs, especially on smaller screens.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

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